Mind Matters - Exploring mental health and well-being | episode 4

Mental health is no joke, and in this episode, we peel back the layers on factors like burnout and the importance of recognizing early warning signs. We get vulnerable, sharing personal tales of sleepless nights and mood swings that have knocked on our mental doors. It's not just about sharing our struggles, though – we pass the mic to you, diving into an arsenal of coping mechanisms ranging from the comfort of familiar TV shows to the quietude of meditation. We're in this together, and your well-being is the star of the show. 

The balancing act of work, personal health, and the omnipresence of social media gets real as we chat about carving out time for workouts and setting those non-negotiable boundaries. We don't shy away from the impact of our digital lives, discussing how to navigate authenticity in a world often curated to perfection. 

Join us as we put self-care center stage and craft a life where we're not just extras, but the main characters.

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Speaker 1 0:05

Welcome to Two Sisters. We're your hosts, Morgan and Raphael.

Speaker 2 0:09

Join us as we share our stories, insights and the undeniable magic of sisterhood.

Speaker 1 0:13

It's like eavesdropping on your favorite sister's conversation. Only we invite you to join in.

Speaker 2 0:18

Please keep in mind that we are speaking about topics that we relate to, but are in no way experts in these fields.

Speaker 1 0:23

So, the so and, oh shit, I tried to do that.

Speaker 2 0:32

What are your hobbies, taylor Swift?

Speaker 1 0:53

oh my god, you guys. We almost could not make this podcast because we were locked out of this room. Yeah, so I tried to get in and as I tried to go in the, the door handle fell off, fell apart and the door was closed, so like there was no way in yeah.

Speaker 2 1:04

So luckily we went down to get some tools. But and okay, at first we just couldn't manage because you know we're not used to it.

Speaker 1 1:13

Let's say because it's an old house with old doors and old handles, and and we tried for a few minutes, but then luckily, I, low-key, started panicking because all my stuff, all our stuff, are in this room.

Speaker 2 1:27

Yes, like oops everything yeah, so that would have been a bummer to get ready for the day or to stay in the pjs the whole day. It's not like we have a lot of things to do today, yeah exactly, um, but yeah, then we called our dad and he was super quick to come up with a solution.

Speaker 1 1:46

It was like two seconds get this, do that. And then my sister she did it and it was done. It took like 30 seconds, yeah and you were already thinking, okay, we can't film the podcast today yeah, what are we gonna do?

Speaker 2 1:59

we have to film it another day and then, yeah, it messes up the whole plan, but we managed, we made it. Yes, and yeah, we're here.

Speaker 1 2:09

Maybe we can be handymen now. Any women?

Speaker 2 2:13

sure. No, yes, no, no. But you know, we still need, you know, men to do these things honestly. Yeah, I mean my friends and my close friends I think there are very few who I could have called and be like and they would say, oh, you just have to do this and and, and it's made for it and you can directly no, yeah, I have no guy friends that I could call no, I mean I could have woken up my boyfriend, but it's like 4 am where he is now, so I wouldn't have done it for this.

Speaker 2 2:42

But but yeah, no thank god for that. Yes, so we are in paris today, for the whole weekend actually, because we went to see taylor swift in paris yesterday, which was amazing by the way, it was so awesome.

Speaker 1 3:03

We feel like we are hungover this morning yes, oh, how exhausting is it physically yeah, because we arrived, like on, at the venue at noon. Yeah, and concert ended at 11 30. Yeah, we stood for like over 10 hours yeah, exhausting was so worth it so that's why we look tired today, but it was, I think, top three moment of my life yes, oh so, so, so good, everything we expected, I think we still have our bracelets from the arena.

Speaker 1 3:36

Yeah, and we have our friendship bracelets and our shirts. I think we are a little too, taylor, swift and who is going to see her again tonight?

Speaker 2 3:46

guilty me and my cousin and I'll see her again in june so yeah, it was so good yeah, it's hard to come down from this high yes imagine she is doing it every single night. She gets no.

Speaker 1 4:04

And I was also wondering how she does that, like wearing heels for three and a half hours knowing that I was just wearing sneakers and my feet were killing me.

Speaker 2 4:13

Yes, I think it's so bad. Maybe she gets a little foot massage in between sessions. Travis Kelsey Massage in those feet, yeah, no.

Speaker 1 4:22

Yeah it's tough, but she Delivered, yeah, yeah she's just making us live a really special moment.

Speaker 2 4:31

So she's like a real life barbie.

Speaker 1 4:33

Yeah, she's so pretty and she's so cute she looks so nice like we want to be her friends and stuff yeah, she's really cute.

Speaker 2 4:39

Honestly, I think she's the best me too.

Speaker 1 4:43

I loved her then. I love her more now.

Speaker 2 4:46

Yes, the ERA tour for the fans like the really big, big, big fans of Taylor Swift, 18 years, yeah, yeah, I think it's like a you know the ultimate experience that you could have, really, I mean all. Eras all albums in one in one show it's crazy, the whole experience she makes us live right, I mean when you start listening to her first kind of country album.

Speaker 1 5:15

Remember how we would record ourselves singing to Teardrops on my guitar, thinking we were singing as good as she was.

Speaker 2 5:23

With my ukulele and your guitar.

Speaker 1 5:28

But see, that was like 18 years ago, yeah.

Speaker 2 5:31

How old?

Speaker 1 5:32

were you. You were like seven.

Speaker 2 5:34

Yeah.

Speaker 1 5:35

What? And now we made it to the Ares tour together.

Speaker 2 5:38

I was six, seven, yes, Just to live this amazing experience and you know the way I feel about her has never changed. You know, same. I mean it's like we're. I think it's a lot of people that are because there were older people as well, like people that are like 35, even older people and very young people and also very young people, but the ones who are a bit older, it's like their love for her never ceased, you know, I mean it's always been there, so it's growing, it's and that's what she said last night and I thought that was so cute, where she thanked us basically for letting her grow as she wished and creating albums with different like eras.

Speaker 1 6:21

So yes, yes, country pop, whatever.

Speaker 2 6:24

Yeah, she's not sticking to one. Yeah, and her fans are letting her exactly. It's not like we're telling her oh my god, you're supposed to do pop and now you're doing indie folk. That sucks like no, we're like 100 supported. So I mean, she's just so amazing she is.

Speaker 1 6:40

I mean, she's so impressive. Yeah, I and and I really love the. I mean, okay, we're Swifties. That's one thing, but above all of that, I really love the messages she's sending out and. I think to little girls that could be really helpful.

Speaker 2 7:00

Yes. She really boosts confidence. I really feel it and yeah, I think also what she brings all these people together. It's not like we don't know anyone and then we're queuing and then we talk to each other and then we exchange the bracelets and it's cute. We made so many friends. Yeah, friends, I mean, it's like the fleur.

Speaker 1 7:23

Oh right, so we were queuing for a while and this mom, her mom and a girl came up to to you.

Speaker 2 7:34

Yeah, she came to us and she was like um, so is this? Because everyone was asking us is this the beginning, the end of the queue? Which queue? Because we were kind of at the beginning and anyways, we we've spent like 20 minutes to explain, explaining to everyone, and this woman shows up with her daughter, who's young, younger than us, and she was like yeah, so is this a beginning, end. And then we explained to her and she was like oh, um, do would you mind if, like, she stays with you because she's all alone and we're like not going to stay with her for the whole time to cue, right, obviously?

Speaker 2 8:09

and they were not going to the concert and they were, of course, yeah, not going to the concert.

Speaker 1 8:13

So then we were like yes, and then she just stayed with us and she was like here, cute, she was so cute and so nice and it's like we had a little sister by adoption for a few hours and we dropped her off to her mall, and her mom was so happy.

Speaker 2 8:34

I think that's a good come out of these kinds of events. It's like sisterhood, girlhood, womanhood, all mixed up. I think it's just good vibes only, and I really like that. I think it's like just good vibes only and I really like that. I think it's, it's so good and something I also think is good and it shouldn't be okay. Let me explain myself. So there are a lot of people who judge because, okay, not everyone is a big fan of taylor, swift also they don't listen to her music, right?

Speaker 2 9:02

who cares? Everyone cares, everyone does whatever they want, right? But a lot of people, when they're faced with the excitements that Swifties have, they're kind of judgmental. Everyone knows this person who is kind of judgmental like, oh my God, you like Taylor Swift, but she's so old, pop blah, blah, so mainstream overrated.

Speaker 1 9:23

Blah, blah blah, Not interesting, not smart, and I think everyone has their opinions.

Speaker 2 9:27

That's really fine, but don't you know, rain on my parade, or don't be like a party pooper.

Speaker 1 9:35

Right.

Speaker 2 9:36

Don't judge my excitement for something just because you don't like.

Speaker 1 9:40

Because you don't feel the same way.

Speaker 2 9:41

Exactly, you don't have the same way. Exactly you don't have the same level of excitement, and I think that's also really important to like. Always remember that the stuff that make you happy like, you shouldn't like just be happy about it.

Speaker 1 9:55

She also said that of taylor swift. She said that in an interview or something like yes, she's the one that has. What did she say?

Speaker 2 10:03

she says don't, don't let anyone Keep you from being excited about something that makes you happy. Exactly, she says it.

Speaker 1 10:10

And it's true, I feel that sometimes and I can be like that with our mom sometimes Maybe not in a while, but I remember sometimes being like that in New York taking pictures.

Speaker 2 10:23

Oh yes.

Speaker 1 10:23

Being the party pooper person in this case. So, like our mom, we, we we traveled a lot. We did some family trips. We went to new york a while ago, and at that time my mom and still she still is was into taking pictures of everything, all the time and even flowers she's like that's cute mimicking, taking a picture, right yeah, yeah, she was taking pictures of us in new york because, I mean, it was our first time, memories right yeah, I mean whoever, whatever the reason is she was taking pictures and really liking it and being so happy about it and I was just not feeling it and I remember on these days that we were on the trip.

Speaker 1 11:08

I didn't want to take pictures. I was always like grumpy and not smiling on the pictures, but at that time I didn't even realize that. Okay and yeah, of course a while ago, because it's been a while already, we saw the pictures again, I don't know why, and I saw the pictures, our faces, especially mine grumpy.

Speaker 1 11:26

We were like so not not smiling, not happy, not enjoying the moment, and I felt so bad that our mom was so excited of taking memories of us and of our trip, yeah, and we were just bus killing it, yeah, and I feel that's what people can be doing when we're like, oh, taylor Swift, taylor Swift Judging and just giving their opinion and we don't care about it. Also, we didn't ask for it. We asked for it and we just want to do our thing.

Speaker 1 11:58

Yeah, but yeah, and basically everyone should be happy do their thing and not judge other people. And sorry, mom, again I told her like 5,000 times but yeah, we shouldn't judge what people like to do. And what gets people excited, and that's also the topic of today. The mind matters, and we need to do things that make us happy, and we shouldn't be judged when we do that.

Speaker 2 12:23

And also we should stop judging other people just because we don't understand something.

Speaker 1 12:27

You know it's crazy I tried to work on myself for that. When I'm like with my mom walking or whatever, and she takes pictures still to this day all the time, and sometimes I'm like, okay, I want to walk and like not stop every five seconds to take pictures, but sometimes not all the time, I know, because she's going to say you're lying. But sometimes I tell myself, come on, she's living her life for the first time too and this makes her happy.

Speaker 2 12:56

So let her do it. Just let her. Yeah, just let her do it. Just let people do what makes them happy, yeah.

Speaker 1 13:03

Oh shit, she just saw a bee whoa, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 13:08

This was like a wasp, a bigger a big wasp or you know these, uh, um, and what is it? These asian, you know, the big, big, big, big ones. Oh, that's big. So it almost came in and ruined everything, but oh good, now we close the window and we are safe. Safe from a little creature who is not going to do anything to us, obviously, but um, might I add that we got the ttpd set.

Speaker 1 13:40

Yes, and we are the second ones to see it, because we were night two in paris, not night one. Sucks that we weren't the first one, but amazing wow, let's just say no spoilers here.

Speaker 2 13:51

Right, amazing, but she is incredible next level. Yeah, she is stepping up. Yeah, it's a next step towards great stage performing.

Speaker 1 14:04

Yeah, she, she just performed. Yeah, it's a performance Wow. I'm just Just wow, yeah, and maybe you can tell us in the comments if you went to the concert and saw it, what was your?

Speaker 2 14:15

experience. Where did you go? Are you pissed? You didn't see TTPD or do you plan on going again? If yes, where when? Yeah, ggpd, or do you plan on going again? If yes, where when? Yeah, let's let's share stories and experiences. And which outfits did you get? If you got any new ones, wink, wink I was lover, you were folklore and tonight. You're gonna be speak now?

Speaker 1 14:39

yes, and next time I go in june, I'm still hesitating because I saw so many outfits yesterday I, I kind of want to change. I was going for Midnight's let's see if I stick to that.

Speaker 2 14:48

I think Midnight's is a good one Also because the set is so good.

Speaker 1 14:51

Yeah, but TTPD.

Speaker 2 14:54

Yes, could be, but it's more like white vibes. Yeah, I know Black and white. Yeah, probably go for Midnight's. We, yeah, probably go for midnight. We'll see our cousin, was she? She was going for a debut at the beginning, or like taylor swift, but she ended up being more ttpd.

Speaker 1 15:12

She was really torture poets and then yeah, which was?

Speaker 2 15:15

perfect. I think it was perfect for a torture poet actually yeah, outfit it was perfect, so yeah what a day what a day, what a weekend. Yes, what a life. Life is good, yeah.

Speaker 1 15:37

We want to talk about the major factors actually affecting mental health. Why does it go down? Why does it go down?

Speaker 2 15:44

How does it go up? How can we make it go up as much as we can, right.

Speaker 1 15:49

Yeah, and these are tips I mean in all this episode. I mean we're not professionals, we just are very into these kinds of stuff and want to make sure, um, to share some tips. Yes, so it's not professional help or anything, just some advice, some things we do to to feel better in our everyday life.

Speaker 2 16:09

yes, and I think we here will talk about two things that we also live, experience, feel, um.

Speaker 1 16:17

Of course, there are many other things we know, um, yeah, and then the tips we're trying to give are more for overarching stuff that makes you feel better, and feel free to share your tips also in the comments on our social media, so we can share all of these with everyone else, because I think it's important and any tip is valuable for mental health Good, valuable yeah for mental health good.

Speaker 1 16:47

So I think maybe the first one we we talk about now is burnout. I think it's a major factor of yes it is and it's bigger now.

Speaker 2 16:56

I I said it before but in the young people it's, it's really huge. All of my friends who are now and not all of it a lot of my friends who just started working recently they're still in their mid late 20s a lot of them are experiencing signs of burnout and, as I was discussing a lot with some of my colleagues who are young like that, we're also trying to understand how do you know when you're burning out, that yeah, that you're like close to to burning out, and how do you stop it? You know, okay, and while it's good to to talk about it in general, I think we we just want to hear really kind of talk about the warnings of of a burnout and how you can identify it. So what are the signs of burning out.

Speaker 2 17:45

So most of the time they're really centered around um, lack of sleep, or you don't sleep a lot or you know all, all around sleep. And then another big one is about like your mood. Yeah, so if you notice like any mood changes and stuff. So I think the first one, coming back to sleep, it's a lot. Either you get like insomnia or you cannot fall asleep. You wake up in the middle of the night and you're just not sleeping enough, so not getting enough rest.

Speaker 1 18:17

There's also that happened to me having nightmares or dreaming about work? Yes, and this is a major thing, I had a colleague one day.

Speaker 2 18:22

There's also that happened to me having nightmares or dreaming about work. Yes, yes, and this is a major thing. I had a colleague one day we were talking about it and she was just like you know, kind of laughing like, yeah, I'm, you know, dreaming a lot about work. Wait, is this a sign of am I burning out? And then I was like, girl, you need to look into this, because if you're dreaming about work all night and then waking up, I have so many people who are just waking up in the middle of the night Taking notes, like thinking of something, taking notes, I mean, come on, sleep is supposed to be a restful time. You shouldn't think about these things and some even wake up anxious. It's so bad, you know.

Speaker 1 19:01

Yeah, I'm lucky I haven't had any burnout experience or big ones. I just remembered when I was studying, I was working for a year in this company and I would have that, so I would dream about work and this one day I remember it was a Friday- and this Saturday was going to be a really tough day.

Speaker 1 19:20

I was working in a store, basically, and my manager she briefed me on Friday blah, blah, blah, we're going to have to do this, this, this and this tomorrow. I slept, I went to bed, fell asleep, dreamt about my whole day of Saturday. So basically, I had two Saturdays because my night from Friday to Saturday was the day of work I was supposed to have, because I was so stressed. I was basically telling myself you're going to have to do all of this.

Speaker 2 19:43

That's really bad yeah.

Speaker 1 19:44

Yeah, and I remember waking up being exhausted.

Speaker 2 19:48

Exactly Didn't want to go to work.

Speaker 1 19:49

Going to work with like a pit in my stomach, that's really bad. Yeah, that's so bad.

Speaker 2 19:55

I think that's really one of the key things that if you get and sorry to interrupt, I ended up.

Speaker 1 20:01

I was supposed to be two years in that store. Yeah, I ended up staying only one yeah I quit my job and found another um company because it was a vocational training thing. Found another, another job and I was so much better, better it's, it's really good.

Speaker 2 20:17

So, first thing, if you notice sleep patterns, you know that are kind of around anxiety, not sleeping well, insomnia. I think that's a clear point. Of course people can have insomnia for like many other reasons, right Overthinkers like me. I have so much trouble sleeping and I know it's not only about work.

Speaker 1 20:39

I know it's like since I was really young she needs a gossip girl or new girl or any girl show to fall asleep when I was in sixth grade so like 10 ish I was watching hannah montana and zoe 101 on repeat.

Speaker 1 20:59

That's why she knows all the episodes to fall asleep anyway that's another topic and then now, today, I still need something in my ears to to but it's like a comforting sound because we were talking in previous episodes how yes, some of our shows are comfort shows, and that's exactly exactly what you're doing yeah, and now I try to do more meditation, but then this comes in a second part.

Speaker 2 21:20

That's kind of a tip and that's one.

Speaker 1 21:23

Yeah, sleep it's a big one. And then you mentioned the, the mood, mood moon the moon.

Speaker 2 21:32

Moon can also affect your mood. No, but mood, yes mood. Did you ever notice in a friend or a colleague, someone that from one day to the other their mood just switches or changes?

Speaker 1 21:46

Yeah.

Speaker 2 21:47

This is usually also a sign If you become, from one moment to another, quite quickly more angry, irritated, yeah, like every little thing. Agitated, yeah, you're nervous, you're irritated, irritated, you're angry, you become kind of cynical. Um, this is also a sign that you you might be burning out if you do it like with your colleagues and your friends and everyone.

Speaker 1 22:11

That that's really a sign that something is affecting your mental health, if it's something that's consistent because I mean we all have our bad days, of course, and some days are worse than the others or better. Voices leaving, but when you see that it's a consistent thing, maybe you can. But that's also a tip Talk to your colleague.

Speaker 2 22:33

Yes, but also it's good in terms of when you're not the one experiencing it, but when? You see it in others. Try to you know. Try to you know what to look out for exactly. Um, at least, if we stay in this professional context, or if I see like my sister is getting more irritated or kind of on edge, I would notice something's going wrong.

Speaker 1 22:56

You know, she can tell from distance when something is wrong yes even when, of course, I'm trying to hide it somehow yeah, but it's just not working no, it's not, damn it yeah, so yeah and notice it change of mood, lack of motivation, yes, when you go to work of motivation when you go to work in the morning and you're like no, like, absolutely not, I don't want to do this.

Speaker 2 23:27

I don't even know where to begin my day, feels endless. Too many emails, too many topics you don't want to catch up on anything you don't want to do anything you're not productive, yeah this is also seeing the glass half emptying, instead full.

Speaker 2 23:41

Now that's really a sign that you're slowly burning out. So take a step back. So that's that, and I think, something also that is a bit common in people who are not fully satisfied in their, in their work, let's say it's having the, you know, the sunday night, a heebie-jeebies, whatever you would call it. This stomach, yeah, the stomach pain, the, the mood crash, the kind of around 4 pm on sundays.

Speaker 2 24:17

You know you're like, oh yeah the sun is coming down, you're like cooped up in your couch or whatever, and then you're like, oh yeah, the sun is coming down. You're like cooped up in your couch or whatever, and then you're like, oh, I have to wake up tomorrow and do something. I don't like, like I'm anxious about it yeah, that's the first sign of it's.

Speaker 2 24:31

It's not good, and I think here it's important to notice it on yourself also like be aware if you really feel down on a sunday night and not down as in oh weekend weekend's over, you know, but really like I'm feeling anxious.

Speaker 1 24:45

I don't want to work tomorrow.

Speaker 2 24:47

I don't want to wake up. I you know. I want to call in sick. You know, I have friends who and I also thought about it many times to call in sick on the Monday morning.

Speaker 1 24:57

Like you, already feel overwhelmed and the work week hasn't started yet. Exactly like you already feel overwhelmed and the work week hasn't started. Yeah, yeah, exactly so. And there's this huge thing that you have been doing in the past. I think it's a little better now, but deprioritizing yes um activities like a personal like you would not go to sports for a while because you were tired.

Speaker 2 25:19

You didn't have time, but we know I mean your close family and a lot of people know you love working out and I remember talking to mom and she was like she's not working out, she's just gonna burn out because I mean we know she needs that, to, to, to be good yes, I think it's important even if it's like a dinner with a friend, going to the movies, working out, whatever you like to do on a work night that you just deprioritize because you feel tired from work.

Speaker 2 25:49

You have work, you don't have the energy because somehow, I don't know, lack of motivation, energy, anything that's not a good sign. Lack of motivation, energy, anything that's not a good sign. I think the most people who I've talked to, who have it most together, let's say, or like a work-life balance, they honestly go to like they stop work at around six, let's say in my area, and then they get at least two, three hours where they can do stuff you know, be with their kids or go to the movies, or go for a walk, or go to the gym, pilates, yoga, whatever it is go to, you know, uh, cooking class really whatever it is do something pottery, ceramics, whatever it is and make friendship bracelets.

Speaker 1 26:40

This is such a meditation.

Speaker 2 26:42

It is but okay, good example I last week I had a lot of friendship bracelets that I still had to make and I wanted to make them because it was so good just to make them. I was like, oh, yay, um, you know, end of the day, cool activity. And then I think last week it was, it was bad at work, it was a lot and I didn't do any. I did one, I made one friendship bracelet and I thought to myself, yeah, I wanted to make more I wanted to make more.

Speaker 2 27:14

I should have taken the time. You know, this is important for me. Yeah, it makes me feel better. It's like kind of a meditative state that you're in when you do it.

Speaker 1 27:23

So you know yeah, that's not good. No, by the way I. I am aware that most of these signs I am also experiencing them, but you know it's good to talk about it so, since you are kind of experiencing that, how do you think, without giving away some tips we were going to talk about? Later but how could you avoid that or make it better? What should you do? What should you not do? How could you be better?

Balancing Work, Health, and Social Media

Speaker 2 27:54

work wise? Yes. So, from a personal, what would you like to do? Yes, what would you like to apply in your life? Like me personally and it depends on everyone I think it's important to take a step back every day and tell myself that what I'm doing is, of course, super important my work but it should never be a priority on my personal well-being or mental health. And I try, and it doesn't really look like it, I know also, our mom is always, you know, worried, and our dad as well, but I am making some efforts because sometimes I'm like wait, no, my, for example, I will now have proper lunches because she says that, and last week she sent us a video of her eating at her desk.

Speaker 2 28:46

Desk lunch. That's not good, Okay, but I'm trying more and more and I said it to my colleagues already that you know, a proper lunch is for me minimum, minimum, 40 minutes where I can sit down, not be like in a work context, not talk about work. Eat slowly, not be in a work context, not talk about work. Eat slowly, not rushed. Eat healthy food that is not processed from the supermarket shit food and stuff. Because this is at least the first step where, okay, this is so important for me, it's so important for my health. This is already one thing I need to do for me having a proper lunch. This is already one thing I need to do for me having a proper lunch.

Speaker 2 29:24

Then the second is I need to make more time for workout and I also said, okay, now, if I don't have time in the evening, it will be in the morning, and I do at least two mornings where I can go to the gym. And also I would like to do more Pilates, but that's something else, because Pilates are more like in the evening. But at least I do my morning gym twice in the work week and you know I also then deprioritize meetings if it's necessary. That's good, because the only time where I can go to the gym. Let's say it's from seven to eight, and then I have to get ready and then I'm go to the gym. Let's say it's from 7 to 8, and then I have to get ready and then I'm not in the office before like 8.40, 8.45 or something. I won't take meetings before 9. Yeah, and sometimes there's a meeting at 8.30, and okay, sometimes it's a super important meeting, then I will make it right. But if it's not like a critical meeting, honestly I'm sorry but this goes after my workout.

Speaker 1 30:22

I actually do that I'm able to so far, then again when it's not too critical, but I have, I work out every day.

Speaker 2 30:35

So every night.

Speaker 1 30:36

I have pole dancing and then pilates at 6-7 on each day of the week and I have blockers in my agenda where it says I'm out of office from this time to this time, like I won't be available.

Speaker 1 30:51

Of course, if there's something critical, I will make it but usually people really, at least in my company respect that, which is very good, and I and they know that if there's something that needs to be taken care of, if it can't wait for the day after, then I can take care of it when I'm back from my workout. But usually they know it can wait. So, I'm able to, for now, keep this going on. That's good.

Speaker 2 31:20

And I know it's so important for me to be able to go work out that I'm not gonna let this go yeah, yes, so we'll be sharing tips after, but we also want to talk about another something we we've seen and it's it's key. We also experience it sometimes. It's, yeah, social media. So we all know that it really impacts our well-being and mental health. All of that, and we just try to kind of give our own experiences to it.

Speaker 1 31:53

I think social media can have a great side to it, but also a really really dark side to it I mean, we see guys and girls looking so good um being like the perfect person, um not only physically, but also in what they do. Yeah, like those influencers looks like they have everything.

Speaker 2 32:13

It looks like their life is freaking perfect.

Speaker 1 32:15

When I know for a fact it's not because I mean I have some people, friends I know in this industry that say, morgan, it's just not real life, it's filters, it's. I mean, some are trying to not be like that and I know I have followed a few of them and I try to only follow these kinds of people, but there are some that just encourage um, putting on filters and trying to look too good. And there's this comparison to other people, constantly, also on social media, always comparing yourself to someone. You see a picture of a girl, of a boy, of relationships, of couples, where you're like, oh my God, god, they have the perfect life and you don't know.

Speaker 2 33:03

Yes, you don't know. No, you don't.

Speaker 1 33:04

And most of the time it's not as great as you think. Uh, this whole fake life thing around social media, it really scares me and frustrates me because it's also giving out an idea, an ideal world to, to small children who think that's what life is yes, and I'm really wondering, you know, for those who are influencers or create content creators, how do you do it or what, what things do you try to put in your content?

Speaker 2 33:37

that kind of balances this out like. I'm also curious to know if, if there are some people who because I've seen a girl on tiktok, I don't remember um, her name, I think anna, something. She's really cute blonde whatever and sometimes she, you, you see her tiktoks and you're like, wow, she's doing all those so cool events. Her outfits are amazing, her hair is beautiful, um, she's always like so put together. But she made a tiktok once. I remember what she was saying. I'm also showing like the real, like not still dirt side, or whatever?

Speaker 2 34:13

yeah, kind of where she's just like it's like an actual in the in the day of and not like a fake. Yeah, in the day of, where you look perfect from waking up to going to bed.

Speaker 1 34:23

You know, when these influencers, they film themselves waking up in bed and be like, oh, good morning, come on. You woke up, turned on your camera, put it there, started filming, went back to bed. Yes, I hate that so much.

Speaker 2 34:36

And then she was kind of filming it, you know, with like every girl's messy hair waking up.

Speaker 1 34:42

I mean it's, it was real, you know like oversized t-shirt, whatever, and I think this made me feel a bit better like oh wait I identify more to to this side also, you know I have this thing that stresses me out I see it mostly on tiktok is those content creators who film everything, like everything, and I'm so. At first there's this thing. When I watch a tiktok, first I think it's oh, it's cute, it's funny, it's whatever. And then I think about it, like or people crying also on social, on tiktok the person took her camera or his camera, started filming and then started crying or started filming this, this moment. That says it's that they say is authentic, when you actually took the time to turn on your camera yes, so I have trouble believing is it real?

Speaker 1 35:33

is it fake? Did it happen like that? What did you guys talk about before doing it? Or did you just catch it off guard?

Speaker 2 35:38

I think, for for those of us who are not into it, we like it, like on the other side, we have a lot of questions and it's hard to understand when, exactly. When it's real, when it's not real, you know, is this something I can identify to or not even it's? This is a little bit hard, I think, and I think impossible to to not compare yourself right yeah, yeah, who is? Able to. If you're able to, how do you do it? I cannot.

Speaker 1 36:05

Yeah, so I think it's social media in the last few years has had negative impacts on people's mental health and that's why later there are some tips to avoid that. Later there are some tips to to avoid that. But social media at first was about sharing pictures and, yeah, like your life, and it was, I think, less judgmental and less um, yes, less judgmental.

Speaker 2 36:34

Sorry I'm interrupting you, but also every time I go on the comment section of posts.

Speaker 1 36:41

I'm so shocked.

Speaker 2 36:43

People are just so mean.

Speaker 1 36:46

I mean.

Speaker 2 36:46

Then you're going to tell me oh, you're just landing, now Get real. But I know that people are mean. You know I'm not saying we live in this beautiful place. It's not true, right, I know. But come on like everything you do is subject for a debate or or mean comments or people giving their opinion twist your words. They you know why don't you just, if you're gonna say something, mean just don't say anything? No?

Speaker 1 37:10

or don't follow that person or don't watch their videos if you don't like them, but don't comment mean things that will have impacts on those people's yes, mental health and that will make them feel bad. And you're just behind your computer just posting something randomly you don't know the impact it will have to have on someone I think it's for sure.

Speaker 2 37:32

There needs to be something done to make it better. Of course, I think it's so difficult. I don't even know how you can do that I just think.

Speaker 1 37:41

Life is short, life is beautiful. It can be hard, but don't be mean, don't put people down.

Speaker 2 37:48

It's like coming back to when you're excited about something and people judge you for that, don't.

Speaker 1 37:55

We're not always happy, always doing the right things and stuff, but I think it's important to say it like be nice, yes, just try. Like just stupid be nice.

Speaker 2 38:08

People are, on the other hand, um also human, and they have feelings, and we are all living this life for the first time, guys.

Speaker 1 38:17

Yeah, so sorry nice, be nice.

Speaker 2 38:21

No, I think just positive mindset is is what should be. Um, and I think a lot of some people, I think a lot of people that are in the like a wellness side of content creation I don't know, like these yoga influencers and stuff. I also look at the comment sections but they have less negative comments, I think because the people who follow them, who are like interacting with them are are in this positive mindset and they're not like at all in the negative side, and I think that's good.

Speaker 2 38:53

It's good, it should be more, more like this yeah, so social media wow. There's a lot to say, but I think, yeah, we should share some tips now, yeah, of how we can, you know, be better on a daily basis.

Improving Daily Life

Speaker 1 39:14

Yeah, so what professionals recommend generally like? Really big picture and then what we try to do. All right. So how can you improve your daily life? Um, even if you're not burning out, even if you're not feeling bad because of social media, how can you be more positive and do nice things to improve your daily life?

Speaker 2 39:45

so you read about some professional tips, yes, and you're gonna say those are kind of obvious tips, I know, but they're actually true they're gonna be like are these girls just like discovering life? Yeah, no, we live in like a, you know care bear world.

Speaker 2 40:02

No, that's not true anyway, um, so the more professional tips, kind of the obvious ones are, you know, workout or do some sort of physical activity. That can be just like going for a walk outside, going to the gym, going to yoga or pilates or jujitsu or karate or whatever it is pole dancing, running, cycling, swimming, for you know, at least they say like at least once a week because it should be a liberating time, although they do say every day you should walk. Yeah, outside, 30 minutes outside, like not on the treadmill, yeah, you should walk outside no, no, because it's different.

Speaker 2 40:50

Because on treadmill you're like in your gym and you're like closed and you're on your phone most of the time. When you're outside, you're it's, it's different.

Speaker 2 40:56

It's like you're integrating, like nature, and, yeah, it's, it's just more soothing, okay so that's one and then the other one that is is really common is to get away from screens and media, and that's what the professionals say, but I get it because it's it's kind of the biggest. One of the biggest problems today is that we're always like on our on our tablets or phones or watching tv netflix. There's so much information everywhere. We're all always on our tablets or phones or watching TV Netflix. There's so much information everywhere. We're always on the screens and a good way to kind of take a break mentally is to cut the.

Speaker 1 41:41

Cut the shit.

Speaker 2 41:43

Yeah, cut the shit, bro. No, cut the screens, screen time, cut the shit bro, no cut the screens, screen time, because then you can focus on manual activities which are more creative or kind of calming your mind rather than overstimulating it, because that's what screens do.

Speaker 1 42:01

They overstimulate you. So when I was making my friendship bracelets while listening to the watching the Taylor Swift concert, I wasn't really doing it right I mean you're not fully mentally in the activity you're doing.

Speaker 2 42:14

Okay, it's like okay. So another thing, and this will be more my tips okay, when you're eating and watching tv at the same time yeah I know, we all do it.

Speaker 1 42:26

My friend who's a nutritionist she said don't do, that's so bad, that is so bad.

Speaker 2 42:31

So what professionals say is that you're supposed to be focusing on the food that you're eating. Yeah, because it is kind of your fuel it's your fuel for, for your, for energy for everything. And if you eat, if you eat quickly, you're not focusing on you need 30 minutes minimum to have any kind of food and you need to sit down and not stand up. Yes, I'm looking at you because yesterday, in the queue for the air store, she was eating her little pokeball standing up, and that's not I was sitting down for two hours.

Speaker 1 43:09

My legs hurt. I needed to be standing, but to get your digestive system ready.

Speaker 2 43:15

Yeah, that's true. You cannot be standing up and like physically if you're. If you, your body wants to understand you're taking a break. It cannot understand it if you're standing up.

Speaker 1 43:26

That's just the I read, okay, mom sure, no but this I read also. I know it's true, they told me, they told me, they told me too.

Speaker 2 43:35

So, yeah, limit, uh, limit the screen time or anything that's like over stimulating it's. It's really about bringing your centering yourself back to something more calm read a book read books, do manual activity, cook, you know, yeah, crochet, I don't know knit right, anything, yeah, anything. Manual is really meditative, yes and then. So the third tip from like professionals is to get enough rest, and rest meaning sleep, but also like uh and during specific times.

Speaker 1 44:10

Yeah, I mean you. The best kind of sleep you get is when you sleep between 10 and 11 until 7, 8, yes, but I mean it's, and also consistent.

Speaker 2 44:19

Yeah, if you're doing like yo-yo with your, with your sleep hours or life rhythm, it's not like even my. My apple watch says that, um, when you hit a consistent sleep goal so falling asleep at around the same time, about the same um hours every night, and waking up around the same time your body will regulate much better, and I think that's that's important. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 44:49

So what do you?

Speaker 2 44:51

yes, do what do you do?

Speaker 1 44:53

what do I do? Okay, I think lately the sleep thing I've been getting down, so you've been getting down. I've been getting down in bed you've been getting down so don't make fun, okay. I have never had trouble sleeping, unlike you, which is so good and already a great step but, what I've been doing like the past year, I would say is going to bed at the same time. When I say going to bed, it's actually like going to sleep at the same time every day. But how do you do it?

Speaker 2 45:30

Well, I just Very specifically, it's nighttime.

Speaker 1 45:36

Okay. So my day happened I went to sports, I had dinner, okay.

Speaker 2 45:40

At the same time also.

Speaker 1 45:43

Depends at what time my pole or Pilates class is. I try to do that daily. On the work week is have dinner at eight, yeah, and then, uh, watch my show. So not cutting screen, so that's not good, but I watch a comfort show. Usually it's a gossip girl. Lately I try to watch something or do something from like eight to nine feeling sleepy talking about all this sleep yeah, from 8 to 9 30 do something for me, so it can be either watching tv, which is or show which mostly that's what I do.

Speaker 1 46:18

But then around 9 30, like I check the time and I'm like, okay, it's 9 30, I should go to bed very soon to sleep at 10 30, so that's my cue, wow, go to to, to my bathroom, get ready for bed, go in bed. Here again, I don't cut screens, which I should do and will try to do, but I go on. I have my little me time, tiktok time or just phone time, which is bad, but it actually makes me feel good because during the day I don't have time to just do nothing on my phone.

Speaker 1 46:50

So I do that and then I just try to put it down between 10 and 10 30, and then just sleep. Usually I kind of fall asleep right away and then I wake up at 7 and then I have a short breakfast or at least something to drink and then I can start my day. Okay, I go see my friends, because I'm home alone every day. So I go see my friends. Um, I have this thing where when I'm feeling a little down, I go and do this like me moment so if I can take a bath, I will.

Speaker 1 47:21

If I can do some like facial, do like my everything shower you know, yes, wash my hair just listen to music. I know that some of my friends are like always down to go out and do these things. Um, sometimes I actually take a day in the weekend where I'm gonna do nothing and see no one, because that's what I want to do, or at least a few hours in that day or say no, saying no, saying no to to going out.

Speaker 1 47:45

I've had trouble doing it. Now I do it, yeah. So I say no and I just get home, order sushi, do my everything. Shower, take that shower, get ready in like my pajamas. I'm just so good, I watch my show and then I go to bed yeah, early, okay, I really like these things.

Speaker 2 48:11

So what I get from you is that you're like the biggest tip would be to get like a routine for yourself. Yeah, morning routine, nighttime routine, to get like consistent every day. I think that's a key thing, I think that's super important and take some me time and then take some me time. Yeah, whether it's friends or saying no to friends or, like you, yourself, taking care, yeah.

Speaker 1 48:30

I try to listen to what I feel my body needs at the same time.

Speaker 2 48:35

Okay, I think that's good. Yeah, routine wise, I see I'm not there at all. I know that's really something I need to work on, and now I really want to write down. I think I'm going to write down my ideal routine based on my work, what you can't do because it's different.

Speaker 1 48:53

Sorry to interrupt. There's something you should do is set something that is achievable. Yes, because if you set something not achievable, then you will struggle and you will be angry, and yet you will just be more down because you weren't able to achieve that. That's true, she has a work that takes a lot of her time, so she needs to set goals that she can achieve.

Speaker 2 49:13

Yeah, I'm also not always home in the weekends, so it's it's difficult, so I need to find something. But I think this, this is a key thing a routine is really what I'm. I'm missing at the moment. Okay, so what do you do? So what I do I, it's more, it's smaller tips, it's not like a grand routine, because I don't have that obviously. Okay, I really don't have my life together I didn't.

Speaker 1 49:37

I realize it now. Are you breaking down?

Speaker 2 49:39

none of it. So I think I really need to do some work, but some stuff that I do, really that that helped me every day to focus more on me and to to be a bit more happy and and stuff like that is one try to work out, do some physical stuff, and when I don't have time because you know sometimes you just don't have time to go to the gym or to do a class or anything I at least go for a walk around the block or something. It's 20 or 25 minutes, just go outside. You know, I usually don't take my phone or like I'm in airplane mode just listening to outside noise, or I do also sometimes listen to podcasts while I walk outside or like some meditation, music and stuff, and that's really nice, like I enjoy it. It makes me feel automatically better and I feel like I've done something for myself during the day. When I do that, that's good, then.

Speaker 2 50:36

Another thing that I started putting in place not so long ago. It's it's regarding this whole screen social media thing. I try to stop, now at least so, using my phone at least 20 minutes before I have to at least fall asleep, okay, so I have like my sleep time in my on my watch and, and usually 20 minutes before, I try to like be in airplane mode and and just read or do some manual, creative stuff or puzzles or stuff like that. I think this. So now I'm reading and I think it helps. I also read um. For the moment I'm reading like a self-development book, but it can be anything. You know whatever you want. If it's like fiction, you know crime or whatever makes whatever does it fan fiction yeah, fan fiction, the 50 shades of gray or whatever.

Speaker 2 51:31

Anything really doesn't matter. Read spicy books or not spicy um, I see a lot of those on tiktok, maybe I should buy them yes, I, I want recommendations, actually because um we want spicy sexy books. I really liked um 50 shades, like really I love the books the books and I I kind of want to find something that's a bit similar with like a story really behind and well-written spicy scenes.

Speaker 2 52:02

Anyway, lovers to no, enemies to lovers yeah, yes, um, and so that's one thing, and then something else. I think you you said it already but kind of saying no, like you don't have to do everything, you don't have to always say yes to going out, you don't have to always say yes for you know a work event. And that's also super, super difficult because sometimes you're like, oh, but you know work events, you have to be there to like be part of the team. And yeah, there's a pressure, there's always some expectations, but you know sometimes, no, okay, I don't want to, I want to be home.

Self-Care Practices and Suggestions

Speaker 2 52:42

I know, I said, I said no um, you don't have to say yes to everything. I think that's important to just prioritize yourself. Yeah, and then, of course, what I do a lot now since years a few years is meditation. It helps when I want to fall asleep and I cannot, I meditate. I try to do it also in those 20 minutes before going to bed. Yeah, I try to do it when I'm feeling stressed at work or before a day of work. You know, I take five minutes. It's like a quick meditation or breathing exercises, and this is already a me moment.

Speaker 2 53:17

It's like me, I'm just enjoying myself and it helps a lot. And not everyone is into meditation, so it can be like proper meditation, but it can be breathing or it can be any other kind of meditation. For you, Meditation is kind of subjective. Yeah, it's anything really.

Speaker 1 53:36

It can be sounds like ASMR or.

Speaker 2 53:40

Yes, it's anything that makes your brain just calm down, or even yoga, I mean yoga for some people is a meditation.

Speaker 1 53:46

Yoga for some of my friends is like hell because it's too slow.

Speaker 2 53:50

Yeah, or some people find it also too hard, and then it's not a meditation.

Speaker 1 53:54

So anything that does it for you to calm your mind, even like laying down and doing nothing, is a meditation.

Speaker 2 54:01

Could be. You know you're out in the sun Listening to birds. Yes, could be. And then something else.

Speaker 1 54:12

I think maybe I do it too much.

Speaker 2 54:13

Now I know what you're gonna say planning weekends me too. Oh, I think it's okay. There are two sides. One thing is it's important to plan for, like trips with your friends, with your boyfriends, with your sisters, family, blah, blah, parents. It's important to do it and I think I did it well now, but I need to slow down a bit because that, no, it's.

Speaker 1 54:36

It's too much, it's I mean we're never home on the weekends too many weekends going away meeting friends.

Speaker 2 54:42

It's so nice and I love doing that because I'm doing something for myself and then you get home and you're tired but then I'm never home and I cannot really do the chill me moments, so I I need to be better, but I think overall it helps to to plan plan for a restaurant, a date night, yeah, a dinner with a friend, getaways, plan for, like, a spa day, you know, because planning makes it more and not like over planning or anything you still be spontaneous but exactly it makes you.

Speaker 2 55:17

You at least have it, it's in your calendar, it's there, you know, you're looking forward to it somehow. You know if the week is not going well or the day, you kind of have this thing to look forward to and it helps. Sometimes I have, like, um, professional dinners or team events and stuff, and you know my week is really bad and and I'm annoyed. But then I'm like, oh wait, you know, tonight we have this super cool team dinner. I'm really looking forward to it. It's going to be cool, it's planned already, I know it's happening. So I think that that really helps also.

Speaker 1 55:49

Yeah, I do that too. A little too much also, but it's important to plan some things to kind of get out of your routine. Actually, yes, Because it's good sometimes to step out of that, but always listen to what you need.

Speaker 2 56:06

I forgot about one thing yeah, lately I did it more before and now I started again, since I like I'm now living alone and stuff, but I listen to music, really loud and just dance. I do.

Speaker 1 56:22

I just dance.

Speaker 2 56:24

I do like dance parties and it's so fun, it's cute. I does that too. I plug my headphones in and it's like really loud and then I'm jumping and I'm kind of like it's like getting out all of the energy.

Speaker 2 56:39

you know and like being fun and singing really loud and you know it's super fun and I do it for like 10 minutes or something and I'm not making any noise because I have my headphones on. You know it's super fun and I do it for like 10 minutes or something and I'm not making any noise because I have my headphones on.

Speaker 2 56:50

you know I'm singing but like my neighbors are obviously not gonna hear me or they might, whatever, um, and it helps, and then I'm in bed and I'm more like I'm energized in a good way to you got some be ready yeah, I'm ready to to go to bed now and I think it mood wise, it helps me kind of cheer up and yeah, and I like that and I've been doing it a lot these days and I can totally see you doing that yeah, like I'm just so fun, like marinette and christina yes, and I, or callie. Callie says at one point, I'm not dancing in my underwear, which is bad, because she does it all the time.

Speaker 1 57:29

I think that's a good way to wrap this up, because dance it out, guys.

Speaker 2 57:33

Just dance it out, just do what you like, prioritize yourself. It's important to not forget you.

Speaker 1 57:44

Yeah, you're the main character of your life.

Speaker 2 57:53

That's right. 're you deserve time? We all do. Yeah, so that's that's our tips. Uh, we hope they help and you know we're also always happy to hear other tips. Yeah, feel free to share, because there's so many, there's so many ways for everyone to to feel better and I think the more we share them, the more you know people can think about it. Like I will think more now about like really having this routine and I will start dancing. Yes, just dance, yeah.

Speaker 1 58:22

So I think that's that's uh kind of what we try to do and yeah so do you have any books or podcasts or shows or anything to you recommend to to people that they can go take a look at?

Speaker 2 58:36

I do. Um, I do so for falling asleep. I have this uh podcast I follow since a really long time. It's called sleep cove. It's really cool, okay. Um, I love the the guy's voice. His name is christopher something. Um, he has a very calming voice and, and I really like it he does different. He does like storytelling, like bedtime stories. He does meditations with with ocean sounds or like bird sounds or just voice and some cool music behind it, and most of the time, this really helps me to fall asleep. Something else I do is like a rain meditation rain sounds. I have a playlist for this.

Speaker 2 59:24

Maybe we can share the yeah we can share the links to that and honestly they help a lot.

Speaker 1 59:30

Also I would recommend it for people into yoga. Adrienne Louise. Oh, yes, of course, her voice is so calming.

Speaker 2 59:40

And she does also some meditation, sometimes not only yoga, so it's Yoga with Adrienne on YouTube yeah, oh, she's so cool.

Speaker 1 59:46

And we've been. I think you guys introduced me to her four years ago. During COVID, during COVID, and I would do her yoga daily because every year in January she's Ah, yes. Her 30 day Does a 30 day yoga thing and I'm not doing it as much as I wanted to.

Speaker 2 1:00:04

Yeah, me neither.

Speaker 1 1:00:05

Because of time but.

Post-Concert Exhaustion and Hobbies

Speaker 2 1:00:11

I do it sometimes and she's just really like soothing. She's so cute, and her dog benji no, she's so cute and also her her videos are good because you have everything. You have some like there are 15 minutes, 10 minute bedtime, longer, like one hour deep yoga or like heat flow, flow, all of these different. I mean you can really it's for everyone. Yeah, yeah, so really that's a good one. Yeah, we also put the link up. Yes.

Speaker 1 1:00:37

Well, that was it. Yeah, Thank you for today. She has to get ready for her second Eros tour now I do, and I might just sleep all afternoon.

Speaker 2 1:00:45

Yeah, I'm actually really tired. I need coffee like four shots of espresso.

Speaker 1 1:00:49

I need to sleep so bad yeah, tired, but uh cool.

Speaker 2 1:00:53

What are your hobbies? Taylor Swift?

Speaker 1 1:00:56

yeah, yes, that's a good closing word? I think yes. So thank you everyone, thank you and see you next month. Bye, bye.