Dating Gone Wrong | episode 8

Dating disasters can happen to anyone, but some leave you questioning humanity itself. Morgane and Rafaëlle are back to share an assortment of jaw-dropping dating mishaps that will make you either grateful for your relationship or vindicated in your singlehood.

The sisters unpack stories that highlight modern dating's unique challenges: catfishers using outdated photos, people completely misrepresenting their identities (including name and age!), and the alarming frequency of dates revealing criminal histories or concerning behaviors. 

Beyond the individual anecdotes, these stories collectively reveal important lessons about dating safety, trusting your instincts, and the courage to walk away from uncomfortable situations. The episode concludes with Morgane and Rafaëlle sharing their own unsettling experience with a gym acquaintance that reinforces why maintaining boundaries matters.

Whether you're actively dating or happily settled, these stories provide both entertainment and education – a reminder that while finding connection involves vulnerability, your safety and comfort should always come first. Have your own dating disaster or meet-cute story? The sisters welcome your submissions for future episodes!

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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:05

Welcome to Two Sisters. We're your hosts, Morgan and Raphael.

Speaker 2 0:09

Join us as we share our stories, insights and the undeniable magic of sisterhood.

Speaker 1 0:13

It's like eavesdropping on your favorite sister's conversation. Only we invite you to join in.

Speaker 2 0:18

Please keep in mind that we are speaking about topics that we relate to, but are in no way experts in these fields.

Speaker 1 0:34

Hello, how are you Good? I haven't seen you in this setting in a while In such a long time.

Speaker 2 0:45

New Year's or Christmas, yeah.

Speaker 1 0:47

Holidays. How do we explain that to?

Speaker 2 0:54

them. Well, how about busy women like Sabrina Carpenter's new song?

Post-Vacation Catch-Up

Speaker 1 1:10

Yeah, too busy too, and yeah too much work. Apologies, but we have a really nice episode coming your way, I think definitely some stories that you girls can relate to and guys actually yeah, for sure would have been nice to have a guy's point of view I have one, I have one, I got one. I only have girls that's also fine well, do not know what what we're talking about right now right so what's new? What's up? Not much busy with work life flying by. It really is vacation. What about?

Speaker 2 1:47

you. I was just on a vacation, so I'm pretty good. I mean I would love to go back, but I mean I had three weeks off, so that was already good. Yeah, that's what we were doing also, like I was away for a really long time, so I couldn't really do a podcast from bra, although that would have been really cool.

Speaker 1 2:09

Can you imagine? Oh, that would have been nice.

Speaker 2 2:12

On the beach drinking caipirinhas. Honestly, it was amazing. It was just this, you know carnival drinking party, chill hiking, amazing, really amazing, and like some different experiences, I would say, local experiences, you know. So that was super nice.

Speaker 1 2:40

Did you join the drug cartel?

Speaker 2 2:44

I did, I really did.

Speaker 1 2:46

No.

Speaker 2 2:47

I did not, but you know, I heard this story about a girl who I think she's from Paris and she left. She was on vacation in Brazil like for some time and she met a guy from a cartel, I think and they like fell in love. She like stayed there. How amazing, I mean, like it's such a it's like a movie story or like a book story and so I think like she's now living fully in brazil. That's just crazy. That's coming from paris to there. Yeah, really weird, really weird. But yeah, no, it was amazing, amazing, amazing, really good. I recommend to anyone who wants to go to brazil, just go.

Speaker 1 3:34

I was gonna say what do you recommend?

Speaker 2 3:38

honestly, I think going to the carnival is really fun and I feel like everyone should experience that at least once in their lives, because it's just a whole vibe and the city is beautiful with the festival and stuff or carnival. And then I would say my favorite part was one of the islands that we did. It's actually really close to Rio, so if you go there it's If you go to Rio, then you can go easily to this other island. It's called um Ilha Grande, so that's how it's pronounced, although it's written like Ilha Grande, but it's pronounced differently. And this was the best.

Speaker 2 4:16

It was beautiful, like paradise, like really cool, and we got to see, like we did some snorkeling and we saw sea turtles and starfish and it was like so beautiful. Um, I really recommend like I would definitely go there again and I wish we had stayed a bit longer. So, yeah, I would say these two and then, of course, something I I will definitely go back to brazil to do, like the whole northern part and some other cool stuff and maybe Sao Paulo. So, yeah, definitely recommend such a cool country.

Speaker 1 4:53

So, yeah, although I mean, I saw the pictures and what you did and it looked amazing, but I don't want to go to Brazil.

Brazilian Adventures

Speaker 2 5:03

I mean, I, I was also the same point of view before deciding to go. It wasn't like on my the top of my list. Yeah, I, I had more like I wanted to go back to Asia or Sri Lanka or, like I don't know, india or like some other places more like around Asia, but I didn't think really about Brazil, like I wanted to go to South America and maybe Peru or I don't know, like Chile would have been on my higher up on my list. But honestly, I don't regret it. Like it's beautiful, like the landscape is beautiful and some people they don't want to go there because of the safety issue, which I understand.

Speaker 2 5:54

But honestly, that's yeah, but it's only in Rio and also, if you're super careful, like nothing happened to us at all, it was like all good, all easy, but you do need to be careful and you're not like going around with like jewelry or whatever, just left all of this here at home and then in the islands and stuff, it was not unsafe at all. We're super secure actually. So okay, so I get it. But let's see, you would, you would love it, I think I think so too.

Speaker 1 6:25

But yeah, I'd have to get, I'd have to overcome the fear of the safety.

Speaker 2 6:31

Yeah, yeah, and also before we left we had everyone telling us like oh my god, it's so, it's so unsafe, like you have to be careful. And everyone, yeah all of our moms and like like some friends, some colleagues are like oh my God, it's like really unsafe, you need to be careful. You're only girls and we're like, yeah, first of all, don't ruin it for us, because we're super excited, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 6:58

And we don't want to be scared. You know, before leaving, and then too, if you're be careful, it's like any other place, like you just need to be careful, know the rules a little bit, and then you're good. So it's okay.

Speaker 1 7:13

I would say yeah, cool, any fun stories to tell from there yes, well, yes, because because spoiler. The today's episode is about dating yeah, and, more specifically, dates gone, wrong dates gone bad that happened or did, like some uh, hooking up with Brazilian guys happen?

Speaker 2 7:46

Well, not in your relationship. Yeah, actually it's funny because we were all so we left and we were like five girls and four of us were either. So two of us are in a relationship. Then two were like in a situation-ship, so like didn't put like really the words on it, but they definitely were exclusive, you know, like they didn't want to go anywhere.

Speaker 2 8:08

And then one was single and, um, yeah, we went to um, we did like a karaoke night at a bar and like these places that you have in brazil, it's like it's not hotels, they're called pusadas. I mean, they you have hotels, but like their local hotels are called pusadas and they had like I don't know, like five, six, like next to each other, like um, in a line, you know, and we went to a bar and it was like in the middle of two hotels and there there was like a big group of like, uh, argentinian guys and they were like super fun and we went to an after party on the beach with them and so, first of all, you can only speak spanish, because no one speaks english. They are like brazilian. They don't speak english. Like with the argentinians, it was just fully sp. Like they did not understand a word of English which is crazy, but it is what it is.

Speaker 2 9:09

And so the one friend who is single, she kind of flirted with one of the guys and they got along really well and they ended up super like. For us it was like so random. We were like what the hell is happening? We weren't expecting it. Yeah, she just like I think they they made out, although we weren't here so we didn't see it, but she told us and basically we were going home or back to our rooms and we I slept with her, like we were in the same room, sharing the the room, and it was like 3 am when we got back to the room and she was like, oh, my god, I kind of want to see him. And I was like because I told her, like didn't you want to like go to his busada? And she was like, oh, I don't know, like I don't really know him. Oh, but I kind of want to see him. Oh, but he added me on Instagram but, like I, he didn't accept my follow back, you know. So they couldn't send each other messages until he like accepted her request, you know. So she was kind of like waiting and waiting. And then he accepted and he sent her like a voice memo and it was all in spanish and we were like, okay, wait, so my Spanish is pretty good, but like Argentine Spanish, like they speak super fast and they like articulate differently, kind of. So it was like okay, wait, I think he's saying this like he really wants to see you, and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 10:36

And then she was like, oh, I don't know, I don't know and I'm like dude, because also I don't have a wi-fi, or like I didn't have data and she didn't have data. So like, if she's not with wi-fi, she we couldn't like text. So she was a bit scared, like, oh, I'm in Brazil, like at this island, with this dude I don't know, like is it weird? And I was like, okay, girl, chill, why don't you meet up here? Because we had like this huge terrace or like outside area with like a hammock and stuff. And in the end they, he was like super quick. So he was like, okay, I'm coming now, like I'll be there in like two minutes. So he was like super quick. And then, yeah, they hooked up.

Speaker 2 11:18

I think the whole night she said it was like fabulous, like under the stars, with the view on the ocean, super nice and I was in bed, literally inside, and like the walls are like so thin, like it's super, it's not, like there's not like a huge isolation, you know. So I put my uh headphones on and I was like, oh my god, oh my god, noise cancellation, gilmore girl, super high volume, and then. But I was still like on alert because I guess something happens to her, of course, like I I need to be here, you know. So I was still like aware, not really sleeping so much. I think she got home at like 5 or am or something and they had hooked up on the terrors like the whole night.

Speaker 2 12:04

So that was really funny. But it was a good story, like this one really good, and he was super sweet and they texted a bit, but of course, like he's back there and she's in france, so yeah, it is what it is, but it was a really good story. Okay. And the day after she forgot her passport at the hotel probably she was just like thinking about this guy and she had her mind elsewhere, so she forgot it. We had to wait six hours to get it back, yay.

Speaker 2 12:37

Oh my God.

Speaker 1 12:39

That's that.

Introducing Dating Disasters

Speaker 2 12:41

That's a fun story to tell Fun, but not a bad one one, so it's quite a good one I think we should start with our dates gone wrong.

Speaker 1 12:51

Then what do you think?

Speaker 2 12:52

yep, perfect, perfect transition to that, all right so so this one is from a friend.

Speaker 1 13:09

Uh, most of our stories are from friends, co-workers or some people from instagram. This one is from a friend. I will read it as if I was her. So I matched with this guy on bumble back in 2023. He was really pushing for us to meet up, but honestly, I couldn't find much to say to him, even over messages, so I wasn't too motivated. Yeah, we all know that one evening, a dinner with my girlfriends got canceled and I was bored. So I thought why not? And told him we could meet up that night if he wanted. Typical, I got ready, aiming for that cute but casual look presentable but still adorable, you know. Um, he came to pick me up in his car and he was already a bit late, but whatever. Then I saw his car. From the outside it was a bit banged up like an old 2005 Peugeot station wagon, but on the inside, oh my gosh, it was a disaster oh, okay, guys, on the floor, clothes and shoes everywhere, just a complete mess.

Speaker 1 14:11

And he showed up in sweatpants like he had just rolled out of bed. Ew, ew. We sat by a lake and I had nothing to say to him. Usually I can keep a conversation going, but I was so annoyed by how he showed up that I knew it was pointless for me to just be there. He was trying to make small talk and I was just thinking why am I here? After a while we went back to his car because I was freezing. He looked at me like he wanted to kiss me and I was internally screaming abort, mission, do not touch me.

Speaker 2 14:41

Oh my God, the worst. The worst is when someone kisses you and you don't want that oh um.

Speaker 1 14:47

Of course I didn't say that out loud. Instead, I said I was tired and wanted to go home. He drove me back, and the next day I sent him a message saying I didn't think we were a good match. He was pretty upset, oh. And at one point we stopped to get gas and there was this random lady hitchhiking. We ended up giving her a ride. It was such a weird night.

Speaker 2 15:06

The most awkward date ever.

Speaker 1 15:09

What, oh right? Oh, that's exactly what I was trying to avoid when on dating apps.

Speaker 2 15:14

Yeah, oh God, that has never happened to me. I think the worst thing is like when the guy doesn't look like his picture. And two, when it's just like not at all your vibe and yeah. You just kind of have to force yourself to stay there.

Speaker 1 15:31

You have to stay there Exactly when you actually go home Actually no Like.

Speaker 2 15:37

Why do we think we have to say? We could just say like no, you shouldn't yeah. Yeah, we should be able to be like no, I'm sorry, we're not a good fit. I have a migraine. I need to go home. Yeah.

Speaker 1 15:55

Why can't we just be honest and say I think this isn't working out let's just cut it short and what you just said brings me to a second story. I have um about a friend of mine, she tells me. So I matched with a guy on hinge who looked like an outdoor model, fit and adventurous. When we met at a cafe he looked nothing like his photos. He was much heavier and dressed in a baggy hoodie and sweatpants. The conversation was awkward and he admitted that he hadn't been active for months. He mostly talked about his ex and fast food. I quickly realized this wasn't going to work and made an excuse to leave good for you, sister.

Speaker 2 16:34

Okay, no, the guy took a picture. Actually, was it a fake picture, did he like look a little?

Speaker 1 16:40

bit like the guy.

Speaker 2 16:41

A really old picture a old picture well, when he was yeah, before he stopped working out. Yeah, oh no, that's just no.

Speaker 1 16:52

Just be honest before yeah, I guess I mean, the person is gonna end up finding out you are not yeah looking like it's also exactly and it's fine.

Speaker 2 17:05

I think, like as long as you're honest about what you look like, you know, like that's not even the problem about how he looks, it's that he lied he lied, yeah, and talked about his ex the whole time. Okay, the red flag, no go. I would have been like no, just go see her by your ex go to therapy? I don't know, I'm not your therapist no, okay these people. Yeah, sometimes I'm really happy.

Speaker 1 17:33

I never did the dating app thing because I mean, I did it and I only met a guy once and then I was just like, yeah, this is not for me?

Speaker 2 17:44

yeah, I think it's liking. I like meeting people in real life and I think there are so many other ways to meet people in dating apps, but sometimes it works really well.

Speaker 1 17:53

I have friends who are like, who like met people yeah, one of my really good friends is with her boyfriend from hinge and they're super in love and they're so cute and she even told me I almost did not go on that date uh-huh and well they're now together and another friend of mine is like in this situation ship with this guy they're really like getting along, not official or anything, but it's from hinge also, and she also told me she almost didn't go.

Speaker 2 18:23

So yeah, I think it could have good outcomes, so I go with another story. All right, so it's also from my, from my friend's point of view. I was in san diego and about to go on a date with this guy and this honestly turned out to be the most embarrassing, slash, hilarious things that ever happened to me. So he was really cute, seemed super chill. We decided to go on a date um, on the beach, because we're in san diego which was already like a 10 out of 10 in terms of setting. It was beautiful, very like rom-com, energy, you know, sunset, all ocean, breeze and all of that. So we're walking, talking and eventually we start making out a little bit by the water. All super cute, cute. Then, out of nowhere, he looks at me and he's like do you want to go skinny dipping? And honestly like on on any other day, like why not? Like that's super fun, right? I mean, who doesn't like skinny dipping? I mean I never did it on a first date, but I think it could be a cool first date, you know.

Speaker 1 19:28

I like it so.

Speaker 2 19:30

so she's like I immediately start spiraling internally because here's the thing I really, really, really had to pee, like I've been holding it for way too long. There was no bathroom anywhere. It was like literally on a lost beach, not even like a port-a-potty, a restaurant, nothing really. So I was like, okay, I'm a little bit stuck now. I can't just be like, sorry, okay, I'm a little bit stuck now. Uh, I can't just be like, uh, sorry, actually I'm going to explode right now. So I cannot go skiing or we cannot do anything. Like it was weird, it really would kill the vibe. But also, I cannot wait any longer, or I'm literally going to pee in my swimsuit. So I'm like, okay, why not?

Speaker 2 20:15

I walked into that ocean like it was my final resting place. I was pretending to be all flirty and spontaneous, like, oh my God, I'm wild and free, so nice. When in reality I was just finding the nearest body of water to relieve myself without total humiliation. So I literally went like swimming a little bit further. Also, how does the guy not notice? Of course she's peeing right, and he thought it was cute and adventurous, although he had no idea. I was just in there like peeing and in my head. I was like please let the tide carry all this away and that it doesn't arrive to any point where he is um, still, I don't know if he ever figured it out, but I do know that I never trust a beach date since because this just happens way too often and, honestly, kind of killed my vibe just because I knew I peed so it was just, it was like not sexy anymore. I feel bad also because it's actually quite it's found out.

Speaker 2 21:26

I think he never found out, or maybe he realized. Maybe it was a bit awkward.

Speaker 1 21:32

Do you know if they went on a second date?

Speaker 2 21:34

They didn't.

Speaker 1 21:36

Oh, okay, they didn't. Yeah, it wasn't meant to be then.

Catfishing, Scammers, and Fake Identities

Speaker 2 21:39

But probably it's just like. You know, you just peed, so you don't want to do like funny business. I don't know.

Speaker 1 21:47

Is it weird? Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 21:51

But like, if you go pee and then you hook up with someone, it's the same right, I don't know.

Speaker 1 21:57

But I mean you don't I don't know, I understand, but I think it was like a very.

Speaker 2 22:04

It had a lot of potential to be a super cute date, but it just like lost the sexy side of it.

Speaker 1 22:12

So yeah, yeah, that girl has a beach trauma. Now, when it's like honestly it's the best dates, like um yeah, I can't wait to have a boyfriend and go on a beach date skinny dipping picnic skinny dipping oh I never went skinny dipping did you?

Speaker 1 22:28

me either, and you know I no, I have never, but I did um make a bucket list for my life lately Ooh, not such a long time ago and there is actually in the travel adventure section go skinny dipping in the. Mediterranean Cool, that's very specific. Yeah, I really want to do it. I mean I would go skinny dipping anywhere, yeah.

Speaker 2 22:51

I think I'm looking forward. Can you dip in anywhere? Yeah, I think I'm looking forward. Maybe I'll propose this for when boyfriend comes to visit next to do it in the zurich lake maybe not, why not, it's? Fucking cold it is really cold and also you kind of have to wait until no one's around, so it's like not so obvious so maybe summer. I think that's totally a bucket list item little picnic, little bottle of wine, little skinny dipping yep, you should, and I I will do that.

Speaker 1 23:25

First date with my new boyfriend. Come on, we're going to the beach for you.

Speaker 2 23:29

It's super easy. It's just like a few minutes. So I mean you live at the beach almost.

Speaker 1 23:35

I do so that's easy yeah, so we, we need to let each other know when we do that cool sorry boys, no privacy here nope, sorry okay, I have another one.

Speaker 1 23:48

I was chatting with this guy on bumble who totally matched my physical criteria based on his photos. Oh, that looks like the same story I just told. Maybe let's see Tall, bearded masculine with a confident presence. He even had a photo with a motorcycle leather jacket style. Like, come with me on my bike to the dollar medias. I was all in, our messages were going great, so we decided to grab a drink. Drink. The guy shows up wearing tasseled loafers, cargo shorts and a pink sweater draped over his shoulders. Okay, he lied. I immediately. I immediately thought there must have been some mistake and that this was going to be a long evening. He started talking in this high-pitched voice and mentioned that he addresses his father formally and he told me about his family vacation, etc.

Speaker 1 24:38

But that was too much for me. I quickly made an excuse and said I have to leave.

Speaker 2 24:46

She just left. But maybe he just wanted like a girlfriend, you know, or he was just not gay and and very in touch with his feminine side yeah, but wasn't her vibe? Also opposite from the motorcycle. Probably that's what. Yeah, exactly, I think that's what triggered.

Speaker 1 25:12

Yeah, um, and I have two other stories from her, so I will tell okay she.

Speaker 1 25:17

She was single for a long time and uh-huh try I can see the dating line um will not name drop here, um. So then she says I went for a first drink with a guy I found quite attractive and the chemistry was definitely there. He was older, had great conversation skills and seemed ready to settle down. Everything was looking good. I noticed he had. Oh yeah, okay, I read this one up front. I noticed he had a genuine interest in geopolitics.

Speaker 1 25:47

So to find a common ground, I exaggerated a bit about my passion for the geopolitics of the Persian Gulf. I told him I had lived in Dubai and that the region's issues fascinated me, which wasn't entirely false, but definitely not a passion. Still, I enjoyed talking about it with him. We kissed at the end of the date and agreed to see each other again. He planned the next date and told me it would be a surprise. We met up nearby and walked to the restaurant. He revealed he had chosen a Georgian restaurant because of the country's rich history. But then he spent the entire evening talking about Stalin's childhood in Georgia and mentioned he wanted to take me on a weekend trip to Brussels to visit the European institutions. That was too much for me, so I said goodbye.

Speaker 2 26:33

Poor guy, she didn't even give him a chance. Oh wow, oh, I would be like okay yeah, and then just never but I mean, he looks super interesting, you know just wasn't her vibe. Yeah, okay, this girl has a specific vibe, I feel.

Speaker 1 26:55

I think so. Yes, and I think after a certain number of dates you know, what you want and you don't want to waste time. But it's still funny. I mean, he tried really hard. Yeah, sweetie, but it's funny you know that the thing she used to find common ground is what he ended up latching on. You know.

Speaker 1 27:13

Yeah, and not just, uh, anything else. Okay, and then last one um, from this person. I matched with a guy where I live and, given the sporty vibe of the area, we agreed on a hiking date for our first meeting. We met at the starting point and I thought he looked pretty good, but as we started walking, it quickly became clear that the trail was quite steep. We were both out of breath trying to talk while navigating the rugged paths, which meant we ended up walking one behind the other.

Speaker 1 27:41

Oh, that's so annoying on like that's why I never cannot really dates like that for like first dates, she says definitely not ideal for a conversation. Pretty soon he told me he came from a family of five ultra catholic children and he had no intention of ever living abroad. At that moment I knew it wasn't going to work out, but there I was, stuck with him at a hundred thousand meters altitude, with a two-hour descent ahead of us, trying to keep the conversation going.

Speaker 2 28:06

Yeah well oh no you're kind of stuck but I mean, if the person is nice depends.

Speaker 1 28:12

But if the person is nice you can just find some topics.

Speaker 2 28:17

But it can be hard if you're not like having any common ground with the person yeah, I feel like I'm very difficult when I I'm not like, when I don't like click with someone or I don't really match with that person. I I think it's super hard to just try to make conversation, and because it all feels superficial in a way so honestly to be, yeah, it's not gonna end up anywhere, it's not gonna nothing's gonna happen. So when you, when you're like forced, like I would probably not talk the whole way down, I would probably be like, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 29:00

What a great view of the sea. Yeah, it can get awkward.

Speaker 2 29:02

Yeah, it can get awkward. Remind me never to go on a date a hiking date Actually, no, like we do those with my boyfriend and they're really cool. But now you're in a relationship it's not the same not trying to get to know him yeah, I feel like that happened to one of my friends, but but I think it went really well. Or like here in Switzerland, people probably just do that all the time, also because everyone loves to hike.

Speaker 1 29:28

So I mean one of my friends, like from a really long time, went on a hiking date and just had sex with a guy on top of the mountain, so I guess that was fun.

Speaker 2 29:39

Okay, fun, positive, she enjoyed it, you go girl.

Speaker 2 29:45

She definitely enjoyed the hike, so we matched on Bumble. He was super sweet, very kind and also very intelligent, so I ended up going at his place. Also. It was in paris, if I remember correctly. I ended up going to his place because it was during the lockdown and not much else was open anyways, at one point he showed me his bookshelf and there was a box of condoms just sitting there, super visible, like you couldn't not notice it. He was. He was showing me a book nearby and I had already spotted the box, of course, and I was laughing internally. He didn't notice at first, but when he did, he tried to move it in the least discreet way possible and he was so embarrassed, just remove it. But I I feel like if I go on a date and I see that it gives a bit like oh, you're either like you're expecting, yeah, or like you have so much sex, I don't know right it gives the right um I mean it's good, you know, like protection, always, but it's like out, it's not like in the drawer.

Speaker 2 31:01

You know, yeah, it sends a message. So he was super embarrassed, but it was really cute anyways, he was really handsome, so who cares? Right, I almost burst out laughing but managed just to smile and he was just so super embarrassed so there was definitely awkwardness after that um, I matched with the guy on tinder.

Speaker 1 31:20

Well, yeah, tinder, what the fuck? Our conversations were incredible. We talked about everything, and our discussions grew deeper and more meaningful over time. However, whenever I suggested meeting up, he always had an excuse Work, family obligations, you name it. That already smells bad. One time we got into a heated argument about bitcoins, which seemed odd, given how well we usually got along. Eventually, I started to suspect something was off. After some digging, I discovered he was a scammer. When I confronted him and said I wanted to stop talking, he insulted me, my family and it got pretty crazy. I ended up reporting him on WhatsApp and Tinder and blocking him.

Speaker 2 32:03

Oh my goodness, the guy just wanted money. No way.

Speaker 1 32:07

Yeah, that's bad, and that's something that people really need to be on the dating apps.

Speaker 2 32:15

Yeah scams, but it um. Did you see the netflix show? I think it's called the tinder swindler or something. Yeah yeah, something like that, that's but the guy he scammed so many women Like how they really need to be careful. Yeah, really.

Speaker 1 32:36

Yeah, yeah. That's also why I don't like dating apps and I wouldn't really be so trustful to meet someone from a dating app. Even though maybe I meet the same guy in real life and he's like a perfect person. I just don't know. I don't like not knowing.

Speaker 2 32:55

I think there's too much unknown and it's really hard to trust someone. But what? But like insulting her family? I mean bro chill oh, it was bad.

Speaker 1 33:04

I mean she showed the text messages. It was so mean, like so, why he wished stuff on his family that are not uh yeah, he's so scary so crazy person.

Speaker 2 33:17

Oh, I hope. I hope he got banned and that he didn't do this to other girls.

Speaker 1 33:25

Whoa, that's intense, okay yeah, and I have another one with also a crazy guy. So I met this guy on hinge and he seemed really nice. We had a good connection and everything felt right. Then one day he decided to go and fight me, telling me that his life was complicated because he had cheated on his wife with another woman and he was getting a divorce or something. He started sharing all these wild stories about his affair and I was telling myself that it was pretty weird and I should not go on. So I stopped replying to him, telling myself that it was pretty weird and I should go, should not go on. So I stopped replying to him. And funny thing is, this is also one of my friends and we had the story in live, um, and he was just going into details, like really big details about the affair and the person, and it was very weird like intimate details or yes, and we're like who is

Speaker 1 34:10

this guy like, is he also a real person? Or? And we started being like, please stop talking to that guy. So she stopped replying to him. But then he messaged, so I'll just talk as if I was her again, she says. But then he messaged me again and we started talking once more. He planned to come see me, since he lived in switzerland and I was in france. Thing is, he went a wall for two days before the trip. Okay, um, it turned out he had been in police custody for fighting with his wife, he told. He told me that his wife had bitten his his shin during the fight.

Speaker 1 34:47

Shared a lot of personal details stop despite this, he still came to france, but didn't. But I didn't want to see him. He insisted but ended up spending the weekend alone. So he came. He actually flew to here um a few weeks later he told me he got jail time for that fight. What? That was the final straw for me and I blocked him. I never saw him in person, but it was still a crazy story oh my goodness, like a psycho oh okay, what crazy this.

Speaker 2 35:22

But yeah she, she met him on dating apps as well, or what on hinge.

Speaker 1 35:27

yeah, and this first weird was when he he was telling her I really need to see you to tell you something like really important, and she was like no, you're telling me now like I'm not going to wait.

Speaker 2 35:39

Yeah, I called him.

Speaker 1 35:39

Yeah, he wouldn't tell her. So they hung up and then he called again and he still wouldn't tell her. And then he texted her like a Netflix scenario. It was a Netflix script and we were all there together that night and we were like who the hell is this person?

Speaker 2 35:54

Maybe it was fake.

Speaker 1 35:55

A paragraph after another, and no, it wasn't fake, but a crazy, crazy person though.

Speaker 2 36:02

That's intense. Yeah, really crazy people I just cannot picture in a fight and you would bite your husband's shin Like it's too much.

Speaker 2 36:11

I mean I bite no, but like exactly you don't bite because you're like physically angry. You know who bites, like we're not animals. I know Maybe slap him, but don't bite him. This is actually perfect for my next story about the violence, but it's okay.

Speaker 2 36:33

One of my best friends from paris, um, she's a lawyer and I think she met a guy which was like a friend of a friend or like from a different friend circle but like some people knew him um, so they got like introduced at a party or whatever, um, and they, I think, hit it off pretty well. They were like they saw each other, they were like texting a lot and it was like going super well, she really liked him and stuff and I I think, if I remember correctly, she like was at his place and they were about to hook up or they hooked up, I don't remember exactly, but one of their friends in common told her or like texted her or I don't know, called her and said like I think like this is not a super good idea to be seeing this guy, because we just learned that he got accused of um keeping his girlfriend like ex-girlfriend, kind of hostage or like sequestered and it's like what I would be out of here in what the shit like.

Speaker 2 37:51

And then you're like, wait a minute, like this is so surreal, is it? Like huh? And I believe she confronted him and she was like um, I heard about this. Like what, explain yourself? And he was kind of like yeah, it didn't really happen like this. Like she was also crazy and I think it's. She also did something physically to him and it was like super weird, um, and in the end, like I mean I don't have the details, but I know she stopped seeing him, but it was she was also torn. Like he's really cool and it's like really weird that he would do that. Like I don't even know if it's true, but actually I think it was true.

Speaker 2 38:34

So it's such a mess, but I think there was something like they fought a lot with his ex girlfriend and like, but this is already a red flag, like if, if there's so much drama, I would say red flag like what, sequestering, I mean what?

Speaker 1 38:51

no see, ya, it's kind of scary it is like people can be like really scary.

Speaker 2 38:56

You're in bed with exactly, and this was like friend of a friend, friend. It was like not even like a blind date or like dating app or whatever. So, yeah, I guess you never really know someone, of course, but scary stuff, we okay. So we met this. I met this girl and we went on a first date. We met on a dating app. He, he said he says this is a guy's point of view, by the way and at first everything was going super smoothly.

Speaker 2 39:24

She was really pretty, really funny, conversation was flowing Like one of those rare dating app wins. You know, you're like, oh my God cool, like maybe this could actually go somewhere. So we're having drinks, laughing, it's a really cool vibe. And then she starts opening up a little bit, getting really real, which I was really into because it's like cool, she's super honest, she's, you know, doing really the work and stuff, opening up. I think that's a cool way to do like a first date.

Speaker 2 39:55

Uh, you know how other people start talking about therapy now and it's like a green flag, or like it's perceived as a green flag, when someone opens up and blah, blah, blah and then she drops this one line and she goes yeah, so I'm in therapy right now because I hit my ex-boyfriend like physically, like she was violent with him. So I'm just sitting there like, um, I'm sorry, like what, what's so? What now? Like where's what do you mean? Like so, like. Maybe she meant now. Like where's what do you mean? Like so like, maybe she meant metaphorically, but nope, she actually meant physically.

Speaker 2 40:38

It was confirmed, she confirmed it. She said she said it like super casually too, like it was just part of her zodiac sign or something like like, yeah, I'm a libra rising, I love ice matcha and once I just punched my ex. So I was like stuck on this date, trying to navigate the rest of the night while mentally updating all the red flags. You know like you're like, oh my god, red flag, red flag, red flag. So I was sipping on my drink like it was a freaking shield, just nodding, pretending to be super chill, while internally screaming how the do I leave without getting hit, because you never know? Um, needless to say, there was no second date, obviously.

Speaker 1 41:26

I ran for the hills oh wow, you know, I think shows that it's not just guys no, no, no.

Speaker 2 41:34

I think it can be scary. People in general have like temper issues, you know, like uh, and I think the creepy thing is that she would kind of justify it on her zodiac sign like who does that? And you know, like yeah, casually, like yeah yeah, by the way, I hit my ex so like I have freaking anger issues and I'm going to therapy because I hit people like well then, see you never yeah, literally see you never.

Speaker 2 42:03

Oh, my god that's crazy, that's scary glad you ran for the hills glad I also don't date like I never date, and these stories really make me happy for that I have a last one and I think it's the.

Speaker 1 42:20

I would maybe not the craziest after what um, I already told you, but um, I think it's pretty bad when you think about it okay um, but not in a dangerous or scary way, just the I would say inconvenience of dating apps okay so the names have been changed for privacy reasons.

Speaker 1 42:42

But here's the story. I met this guy, jack, on hinge. Everything was perfect. We went on a lot of dates so that's not just a one date thing that she, she was seeing. This guy had a lot of fun and talked a lot. One day I went to his place and we went to the pool. Some guy called him jake, but I didn't really catch on, jack, jake. Jack had told me he was 31 and had two kids from a young age, which was fine with me. We dated for a while and everything seemed great. Jack was training for an international sports competition and I saw his team listed on instagram. I recognized the team name and noticed the name jake instead of jack.

Speaker 1 43:21

I was confused and decided we needed to talk duh obviously I didn't give him a reason, but I told him we should have a serious conversation. I think he was um she's saying he was on vacation during that time okay um, I did some more digging online and found out he wasn't 31 but actually 36, so he lied about his age and his name red flag number two oh yeah.

Speaker 1 43:46

So she writes he had lied about his age too. I was furious, because we had been dating for months and he had been lying about his identity the whole time. Can you imagine like the guy you're calling him jack and he's actually like, turns around and recognizes the name when he saw his name the mental effort messed up, that's messed up the effort to like go into these lies and stuff.

Speaker 1 44:07

I I cannot and then she says I texted him saying it was urgent that we talk. He asked what? What was up? And I replied Jack or Jake, you go girl. He called me and apologized, saying his friends had advised him to lie to protect his children.

Speaker 2 44:23

What.

Speaker 1 44:24

Okay, but I mean, it's been months and that's still weird.

Speaker 2 44:27

Lie about your name and your age.

Speaker 1 44:29

That's a bit sus, I told him it wasn't okay and that I felt betrayed. I asked if there was anything else I should know, and he admitted he also lied about his age. We saw each other a few times after that, but the trust was broken and I eventually stopped seeing him.

Speaker 2 44:42

Well, good for you good for you liars. That's crazy it's so up. How do these people go on lying Like? I don't understand it takes so much effort to like maintain a lie, you know To keep up, yeah. Like how do you even do that? Like I would get mixed up and I'm like imagine you're like at Starbucks and they're like give me your name. And you're like Jake Jack, that's my name. You know, jake Jack, that's my name. You know, like it's so much effort.

Speaker 2 45:16

It is I can't lie because I cannot keep up with my lies Me neither. I couldn't. Also, it would like show on my face. I'm just like such a bad liar.

Speaker 1 45:28

I'd be like all red and blushing.

Speaker 2 45:30

Yeah.

Speaker 1 45:30

No, no, no, Okay, I'm lying.

Speaker 2 45:33

But so how long did they see each other?

Speaker 1 45:35

For months, like a few months.

Speaker 2 45:38

Wow, and then just cut all ties.

Speaker 1 45:41

Four F-O-R months, not four months.

Speaker 2 45:44

Four.

Speaker 1 45:46

Four, a few months.

Speaker 2 45:47

Four, a few months Gotcha.

Speaker 1 45:49

Yes, I don't have the number in.

Speaker 2 45:51

Uh-huh, but it was like not weeks, it was more like months.

Speaker 1 45:54

No, no, no, Months.

Speaker 2 45:57

That's tough.

Speaker 1 45:57

Yeah.

Speaker 2 45:58

How did she feel? Was she sad? How?

Speaker 1 46:00

do you trust someone? Well, she felt betrayed and I guess kind of broke something, and then, as she said she kept seeing him, but then she's like, yeah, no I mean that's full-on crazy.

Speaker 2 46:16

Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely like cannot really get back to a trusting relationship after that like is your mom's name really your mom's name? But you're said to question everything, are your?

The Threesome Audition

Speaker 2 46:30

children, even yours do you even have children? I mean, it's, yeah, what is real, what is not real? So also in the line of crazy people. The next one is kind of crazy. Also, it happened not a long time ago, so not to me, obviously, to my friend. So I'm gonna read this one. Let's try to keep up, because it's actually quite detailed, okay, so I met this guy at the gym one day. I was just doing my regular workout and he just came up to me, started small talk and then he asked if we could exchange phone numbers. This happens so often here in Zurich, by the way, that people just like yes, I know what you're going to talk about, keep it in your you need to close with that.

Speaker 2 47:21

yes, Keep it in a little box, perfect. At first I didn't want to, because the type of guy who comes up to me at the gym is not necessarily the type of guy I like. So I told him that I could take his phone number, but I would most likely not reach out to him. And he did. He gave me his phone number. Then, after a few days or weeks, I thought about it and I was dating a little bit people, but a bit bored. So I decided to reach out to him and we started talking a little bit, decided to go for a drink on a Thursday night after work. He was super nice and very interesting. We talked about what we both do for a living and got to know each other a little bit better. It was was quite a short date. Nothing happened on that night, but we both really enjoyed it and he was really cute.

Speaker 2 48:17

A few days later he invited me over for dinner at his place and offered to cook Super sweet. I wasn't 100% sure, but I went anyways because I thought we had a nice time during the first date. So why not nice time during the first date? So why not? When I arrived he had prepared a nice home-cooked dinner and it was very cozy. His apartment was super nice, very good interior design, kind of, like, you know, modern but with like a feminine touch, so elegant, like really elegant. We talked about a lot of different things and at one point I decided I really need to pee and I need to go to the bathroom.

Speaker 1 48:59

Again the pee story.

Speaker 2 49:00

Yeah, it's the same, it's the same friend and she always has to pee. I mean, obviously you're at dinner, so you want to pee. Um, when I arrived in the bathroom, I had this weird feeling that maybe I should look into the drawers out of curiosity, call it a hunch or something. And so I did. I like snooped around in there and I opened one of the drawers and there I found a loads and I mean really a lot of makeup products, beauty stuff, literally girl stuff, and I thought, hmm, that's really suspicious. Like I'm pretty sure he has a girlfriend, like there's no other explanation for this. Anyways, I go back to the table and I thought I have to bring it up because, you know, either he has a girlfriend and he's honest about it, or he maybe it's his ex-girlfriends or his sisters. Anyways, I had to ask.

Speaker 1 49:59

Yeah, so keep going.

Speaker 2 50:02

No, because it's weird. You like have it in your mind. But then you're like, if he does have a girlfriend and he tells you why would he like either he keeps up the lie, kind of, or he just tells you from the first. I mean like just don't go on dating apps. Or like don't go, like not on dating apps, but like don't go flirting with people at the gym. Like that's just fucking weird If you have a girlfriend. So I asked him point blank hey, do you have a girlfriend? Because I saw this shit in your bathroom. And then he straight up replied yes, I do have a girlfriend. He just said it. He was just like, yeah, okay, interesting. So what do you say? Yeah, kind of like this like yes, I do, yes, I do have a girlfriend. She lives here.

Speaker 1 50:58

So I just say, okay, I'm out, I'm out see a sucker?

Speaker 2 51:03

like no way. Um. So he said that they are in an open relationship, but as we talk about it and like the concept of open relationship is like pretty new, so it's also interesting, I had a lot of questions to ask. Anyways, we talked about it and then after some time I realized it was like a one-way open relationship, because he could see other girls but his girlfriend didn't want to see other guys what the hell that's like she didn't want to.

Speaker 2 51:37

She was just like okay, you can see other girls, but I'm not like gonna see any other guys.

Speaker 2 51:42

So weird, it's like you, that's weird you're like sharing your boyfriend, but you're like keeping exclusive, like you. I don't know if I would like it, and though the weirdest part of it all was that in the end he told me that he didn't tell me at first, but now that he brought it up oh, for those who don't see her cat just came, my cat, the baby. That's so cute. So it's good that we're talking about it now, because actually they are both looking for girls to have threesomes with. Oh wow. So it's kind of.

Speaker 2 52:24

It was kind of like a ted, like an audition for a threesome, or that's so weird. Or like he was like yeah, so would you be interested? You know, no thanks. After that I was like first of all, why didn't you say anything before? Second, what makes you think I would want to have a threesome with you if you're not being honest also at the beginning? That's just weird. Uh, needless to say, date kind of continued. It wasn't like a dramatic exit or anything, but I definitely did not text him anymore because I was not interested.

Speaker 2 53:02

I was going to say if you're not into that kind of stuff, yeah, yeah, like just know, and please give me a heads up before I like free up a night right to have dinner with you she's purring so cute.

Speaker 1 53:24

Yeah, that's yeah. So how weird is that?

Speaker 2 53:25

dating apps I saw also um couples looking for a girl for a threesome, but at least they're open about it. Like, please be open about it. And some girls really dig that that's fine, but like, don't lie. And also so she told me when she was telling me the story like now I get it. Like the apartment looked really nice and really like a girl literally lives there. She could tell she had like this feeling. She was like, hmm, I feel like I'm going to look in the little cabinets and drawers in the bathroom. So yeah, that's the story Interesting.

Speaker 2 53:59

I followed like her when they went to this first date and she was like so this guy was like a finance bro and this is so not her type, like she's more in like the artsy kind of alternative type. And she's like, yeah, I would have never gone on the first date with him, but he was cute and I was like why not try it out? But she even didn't want to at first. Like she still went for it. And then I was like a few days after I was like so how was the date? She was like actually super cool, like he is super interesting. We had like a really good talk. He's gonna cook. Also, she's vegan, so he prepared like a vegan meal or whatever. And then he just pulls this shit and I saw her literally like the the day.

Speaker 2 54:45

So it was a Sunday night, the date. And I saw her on the Monday morning because we were going, um, like on a team event and I was like girl, I was not expecting that, because she texted me at night. Yeah, like on Sunday night, like, oh my god, like girl, I have to tell you tomorrow morning, but I don't know what words to use but I was like expecting something good, you know, like she had a, the best night ever and like didn't come home or whatever. But no, that was fun, I mean, super weird really really crazy and weird.

Creepy Gym Guy Story

Speaker 1 55:19

Um shows that we I mean you need everything to make a world definitely, and also don't trust gym boys.

Speaker 2 55:27

we have sorry for the nice guys that also do that, but we have bad experiences overall with people who flirt at the gym. Just no For me, it would be a red flag now, to be honest.

Speaker 1 55:43

We were both living in Munich a few years ago and we went to the gym every day and we went to the gym after work, so around 6 pm every day, and we were just doing our thing like all was good, and we noticed this guy was kind of interested, looked interested in us and he, I think, came up to us once he did, he did and said you guys look cool, would you like to hang out like outside of the gym at some point?

Speaker 1 56:12

and we were unique, had no friends and we were like so naive little girls so naive, oh my god let's make a friend and just hang out outside of the gym. And once you were on a work trip and I was there alone and, um, he also came to talk to me, or maybe that was was that time, I don't know. We got in contact. He took us out on a it was just like a hang. It was just like a we were hanging out.

Speaker 2 56:40

We went to this carnival festival thingy with roller coasters.

Speaker 1 56:45

Yeah, like a Christmas market thing, we had some stuff to eat. It was fun, we had a good night that night it was fun, had a good night that night was fun.

Speaker 2 56:53

It was until it wasn't only friend in munich.

Speaker 1 56:57

We went on the second hangout with him, uh, to a dinner place was it like the shisha place? Oh, hookah, or whatever it was, oh my god, hookah place first of all, what the hell like you don't take ladies but also like it's, it was weird, it was so weird.

Speaker 2 57:22

The vibe was weird that night I was really uncomfortable when I think about it and I went to the bathroom because I have to pee all the time.

Speaker 1 57:31

So I leave my little baby sister alone with that super tall man, super bulky Super bulky Like he can knock you out. And yeah, scary guy.

Speaker 2 57:43

Like he goes to the gym and then he was like, yeah, taking stuff probably.

Speaker 1 57:50

And I think I came back and saw your face like I'm uncomfortable so I said, okay, like you know what, let's just go home. I think you didn't even tell me anything at that point, right? No, because he was here we're saying it in french. You said something to me in french like we should go. Like he's weird, let's go, so yeah like just he's this is weird.

Speaker 2 58:13

Let's go in the car. The car, do you remember the porsche? Yeah, so he had like a porsche, but he almost hit the curb, you know.

Speaker 1 58:23

Oh yes, weren't the doors in the back locked, also like childproof?

Speaker 2 58:28

so yes, I think also like the window, like everything, um. So also, the guy didn't bring like mean vibes, but it was like he made me super uncomfortable and then you'll you'll understand why in the yeah it was always just him and us, no friends yeah, so weird. And I think even that night at the hookah bar he was supposed to bring friends but they mysteriously couldn't join, or they were late or it was super weird. And I was just like I'm not spending another minute this weird ass, and he knew where we lived.

Speaker 2 59:06

Yeah, because he picked us up, damn it. So when we got back, I think he was a bit mad that we kind of like cut him off, especially after like what he told me when he went to the bathroom, okay, and then he, he was like a bit like you know, like aggressively driving. It was like a bit weird. He was kind of like not really paying attention to like the road and he almost hit the, or he did. He did hit like the curb and then he was like, oh, you know, like steering wheel, okay, whatever. And then I was like and I was in front and I was like why did was that even in the passenger seat? In should have gone in the back, like uber driver. So I was like that's super weird.

Speaker 2 59:58

And then I think we arrived at home and we like went inside and I was like, okay, this guy is super weird, like let's never see him again. And what he told me when you were in the bathroom, like he was like I don't remember the details, maybe you remember um, but he said something like um, let's also see each other when your sister's not here, or something like that. And I was like what do you mean? Like a world of friends, like are you stupid? Um, and he was like being super insistent and also he sat like closer on the couch couch and I was and he also then wasn't something like something spilled and he got super mad at the waitress the way the waiter or waitress dropped the like water or something it was water, yeah, and he was so pissed, he was really pissed he had anger management issues.

Speaker 2 1:01:01

Yeah, dude, manage that stuff. And then so I told you like whatever, it's too weird, like let's just not see him. And then there was something about the texting.

Speaker 1 1:01:16

Yeah, he texted me weird stuff. Yeah, I remember that I don't remember details.

Speaker 2 1:01:18

But he texted like why are you? Yeah? And then he, but he texted me privately like why are you reacting like this? But and I was like dude, like fuck off, like I block, block, block, block, and then that's it. And then we even changed our going to.

Speaker 1 1:01:36

He faked. He faked, blocked us. Remember he? He removed his uh picture on whatsapp to make us think he blocked us. Yes, yes, yeah, they do. And yes, we did end up going to the gym at six in the morning after because we were too to avoid him to go just because creepy like creepy dudes like why yeah, why he?

Speaker 2 1:01:57

was like super strong and bulky, like you never know how he could like scandal us, we did not yeah take the risk being alone in munich and for the record, we were just like let's make a new friend, like why do you have to see something sus?

Speaker 1 1:02:12

or like we're like, like we shouldn't have I mean, we were not flirty, we're not giving him any attention that he could have, you know and it was pretty obvious like we were literally just hanging out laughing.

Final Thoughts and Future Topic Ideas

Speaker 2 1:02:29

We're two sisters living here. Like let's just you know what happened to making friends anyways. Way too naive I'd probably yeah, but that was so weird. So not a dating story, but like a weird guy story. Yeah, so much fun. I'm really glad I have a boyfriend because I don't have to do to live like weird dating stories. What about me?

Speaker 1 1:02:59

I can still get like kidnapped no not dating though no, and I think.

Speaker 2 1:03:08

I think we're more aware now, maybe, maybe.

Speaker 1 1:03:11

Yeah, I don't know, yeah.

Speaker 2 1:03:13

I mean, I don't know, it could happen to literally anyone.

Speaker 1 1:03:15

But yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, but you know, Hmm. We're still, I mean I would be careful. So it was a really fun episode to make with you.

Speaker 2 1:03:26

Yeah, it was Good for the other one. Hope everyone else also enjoyed it. We're happy to hear stories anytime, though. It really feeds our content. So anything funny you guys have to tell yeah, please do tell. I mean, this happens to everyone, so yeah, yeah, and also nice stories, I.

Speaker 1 1:03:50

It could also be like really cute.

Speaker 2 1:03:52

How do you call them? Meet-cutes, meet-cutes yeah, like that would be so nice if we could have like stories like this also to kind of bring the love romantic side Like really special dates. Ooh, that's super nice, that's so nice.

Speaker 1 1:04:11

If we have enough content, we can make an episode on that yeah, that would be super cool, so okay, so thank you, bye everyone see you bye.